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 anyone doing central america this summer...

    
PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 3:33 pm Reply to Message Reply with quote

going up from panama to cancun... june - august...
this is the part of the trip i am really shitting it about..
cant speak a word of spanish and pretty gonna be on my own the whole way up

seems to be a pretty quiet subject on gapyear.com especially compared to sea oz nz and usa.. which is strange cs it looks fucking amazing and cheap... so just wondering if anyones in the same boat as me..
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 2, 2009 10:35 pm Reply to Message Reply with quote

I did an organised tour a couple of summers ago from Guatemala to Costa Rica. We predominantly used public transport, and having done it and seeing how it works, I think you should be alright on your own with only a little Spanish. Costa Rica is so westernised, very touristy, you wont have any problems there, and I loved the country so I would recommend spending a bit of time, 2 or so weeks exploring it - especially since it'll be easy and fairly relaxing for you. The public transport bus links are easy, really haggle with the taxi drivers because they will quote a silly price for you (especially those that hang around the bus stations) if you can find one where the driver has/will run the meter, this is best - top tip from me there because I found them to be so infruriating whilst I was there!

In Nicaragua, I visited Granada, and there's a little tourist travel shop type of thing, and in there you can book all kinds of excursions, I opted for an all day tour of the area which was great, included a trip to a market, lunch, swimming at a lagoon, a visit to a local home where they made pottery, and I was able to try my had on the potting wheel, visited an old prison, went up the top of a volcanoe and also went caving. I really liked it there and would recommend staying a couple of nights. Your money goes SO far in Nicaragua as well - I stayed in the most gorgeous hotel on the main square - it was like their equivalent to the Ritz in London, and it was a bargain! Oooh, there's also Ometepe which is the 2 volcanoes that have created an island on Lake Nicaragua. They do have very small passenger ferries that do regular crossings, but you can also get across on goods boats too - I went across on a goods boat and came back on a passenger one. There are lots 'luxury' and 'semi luxury' busses that go from San Jose up into Nicaragua (I'm guessing to the capital Managua) These busses are cheap to us, but pricey for locals, but rather than being on a cramped chicken bus, it's like a proper coach, the best have AC, others you just have to open a window, a lot have TV's, toilets etc.

To get into Honduras I'd say get a bus from Managua as far as Tegucigalpa... and you'll probably have to stay overnight there as it is a long journey! We only stayed there as a place to break up a long journey, and tbh I didn't think much of it as a place to spend any time in. I'd then get another luxury tourist bus from there up to La Cebia, and there's a port where you can get on a massive fancy passenger ferry which will take you to the Bay Island of Roatan which is basically just pure paradise. (The ferry is called the Galaxy Wave I do believe) Lots of snorkelling/diving opportunities, cheapest place in the world to do Padi, it's semi touristy (but not Magaluf/Benidorm touristy) it's still lovely, but heaps of people speak English there, and there's so much to keep your self occupied, swimming with dolphins was a highlight for me. Honduras seemed to have good links with luxury busses serving between the big cities such as Tegucigalpa, La Cebia, San Pedro Sula but I have to admit we used a fair few chicken busses and private mini vans as well. Visit Copan for the ruins whilst in Honduras... and it's right on the boarder of Guatemala so you'd probably be passing through any way. There's some totally amazing secluded hot springs about a half hour dirt road ride away from the town and I'd highly recommend that as well.

I didn't get to explore that much of Guatemala, but Antigua is beautiful, and just walking around the town, there were so many little companies offering excursions, activities etc. so I really don't think Guatemala will be anything for you to worry about either!

Don't know if any of this has helped or not!
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 2, 2009 11:57 pm Reply to Message Reply with quote

ah thanks alot really appreciate it.. i seriously have no idea on where to go in yeah mainly costa rica and nicaragua.. i hadnt even heard of nicaragua before i booked my trip..
ive also been told whatever i do dont get on the chicken buses... are they really that bad?
the bay islands look amazing aswell..
how long did u go for.. n how much u spend? obviosuly if u wer on a tour would be quiet different to me...ive gota long way to go in two months but i reckon its definitely doable.. think il get away with just over £1000
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 5, 2009 9:34 pm Reply to Message Reply with quote

Ooooh, where to begin lol. The Chicken busses aren't THAT bad. The windows all slot down, so whilst there's no AC on board, once the bus gets moving it feels like there is! They're a really good fun experience - riding along with the locals. Some of the bus drivers play really old 60's music - depends on whether they're in the mood for music that day or not. They can get really busy so if you don't board the bus at the start destination - and you don't get there 15 or so mins early, you MAY have to stand - though I have seen the London underground trains in far worse conditions with people totally crammed in standing! The seats are really big so usually three people (or possibly more) sit on one. Chicken busses are basically the old American yellow school busses - sometimes painted in REALLY crazy colours and patterns which is awesome. I've spent a couple of summers working at a kids camp in upstate NY, and we used to put 3 people on the seats so when I got to Central America, it seemed normal for me lol. Supposedly they can be a bit crazy - for example people are allowed to take chickens (hence the name) on board, pigs etc. though I didn't experience that (unfortunately - I'd have loved to see it!)

I mentioned Granada and Ometepe Island in my last post (Nicaragua) and as you've said you don't really know much about the country, I would personally recommend both places. There's some really gorgeous cold springs at Ometepe so if you go - don't miss them. As for Costa Rica - I LOVED this country. It's a bit more expensive than Nicaragua and Honduras as it is a bit more westernised and set up for tourists. Your bus from Panama will most likely take you straight to San Jose. It's a nice enough city, but you'll easily get bored so don't plan too much time there. There's more than one bus station - one which serves the west coast, and another for the East Coast. First off I headed north east to 'La Fortuna' it's a village really set up for tourists. There's a great activities centre just behind the church that's on the village green - and they offer just about everything. All different grades of rafting to white water rafting, then offer stuff like a guided walk through the forest to see the wildlife, a trip to Arenal volcano is a must as it is constantly erupting and it was freaking amazing to watch. There's some pretty impressive hot springs there, they also offer caving, and guided mountain hikes - oh and stuff like volunteer for the morning at an animal sanctuary - so yeah - heaps of stuff to pick from!

From there we headed to Monteverde. It's supposed to be the best place to go zip lining through the cloud forest, and hands down it was the highlight of my trip for me. The weather is a lot cooler here so be prepared for that, and because you're going in rainy season, I'd recommend booking a morning zip line trip as it tends to rain in the afternoon more so than the morning. There's also other stuff to do there like a frog farm, a tour of a coffee farm, the national park, but the zip lining/sky walks is probably what you go there for. There's a restaurant/internet cafe in the town called the Treehouse - and it's built around a massive tree and it's just awesome really - so eat there if you go!

Manuel Antonio is a stunning National Park still on the west coast. The abundance of wildlife was amazing, and the beaches inside the actual park are obviously totally unspoilt, white sand, turquoise waters, the beach just leads into the forest, so no crappy touristy shops lined along the beach with annoying rent-a-sun beds etc - just bliss. Obviously the beach outside the park has all of that, and surfing lessons and stuff, but I'd say it's well worth a visit.

To get from one side to the other you might have to do an overnight stay in San Jose. August to October is Green sea turtle laying eggs time, and in Tortoguero (East coast) 100's come up onto the beach to lay their eggs. It was such an amazing sight to see. Aside from the turtles - to get to the area, going by boat from Limon via the canals is the easiest way as the town doesn't have roads. I saw all sorts of animals from otters to crocodiles, caimans, beautiful exotic birds, sloths, monkeys etc. so even if you just miss the sea turtle season, I'd recommend it.

There's also Cauhita to the south of Limon but I didn't think much of it. Another beachy kind of place, but not as nice as Manuel Antonio.

My tour lasted 28 days, but put in mind all my hours in the day were totally free for me to just explore and have fun, I didn't need to take time out to book hotels/hostels, find out about transport and stuff. But then this said also, I was restricted, and a couple of places I visited, I felt like I didn't really need the amount of time we were given, and I'd have moved on to the next destination a day early had I been given the chance (eg. Cauhita) I think the initial cost of the tour, inc. local payment was around £1000. On top of this I also paid for optional activities, tips and meals - so yeah I'd say I probably spent about another £250-£350 on top of that. (I did opt for some slightly extravagant activities such as swimming with dolphins which I think was $75 or $80, but I really wanted to do it and didn't want to leave regretting not doing it whilst the opportunity was there!) Bear in mind I will have paid over the top to have the luxury of a tour guide do all the planning and prep for me, so you'll save a fair bit by doing it on your own. I've heard that Belize is crazily expensive - not even close to the cost of all the other countries you'll be going to, so budget for that. I'd think about spending more time in places in other countries that are similar to destinations in Belize (eg. Roatan is supposed to be similar to one of Belize's islands just off the coast) Eating out is cheap, but beware of places where they add tip and tax on top of the menu price. The tax tends to be a bigger percentage in very touristy areas such as Roatan.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:52 am Reply to Message Reply with quote

Hey,

Im going ot South America/Central America this summer. I say South America because i am initially flying out to Colombia and then taking a boat to Panama (as i really want to visit the San Blas islands) when i get to Panama i am just going to work my way up through central america then on to Mexico where i have some connection flights.

Has anyone got any idea how much i should budget for in the different countries? i have planned accomodation for the beginning bit of my trip but i didnt want to restrict myself so opted for the 'Wing it' option.

A.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 12:26 pm Reply to Message Reply with quote

Ooooh, where to begin lol. The Chicken busses aren't THAT bad. The windows all slot down, so whilst there's no AC on board, once the bus gets moving it feels like there is! They're a really good fun experience - riding along with the locals. Some of the bus drivers play really old 60's music - depends on whether they're in the mood for music that day or not. They can get really busy so if you don't board the bus at the start destination - and you don't get there 15 or so mins early, you MAY have to stand - though I have seen the London underground trains in far worse conditions with people totally crammed in standing! The seats are really big so usually three people (or possibly more) sit on one. Chicken busses are basically the old American yellow school busses - sometimes painted in REALLY crazy colours and patterns which is awesome. I've spent a couple of summers working at a kids camp in upstate NY, and we used to put 3 people on the seats so when I got to Central America, it seemed normal for me lol. Supposedly they can be a bit crazy - for example people are allowed to take chickens (hence the name) on board, pigs etc. though I didn't experience that (unfortunately - I'd have loved to see it!)

I mentioned Granada and Ometepe Island in my last post (Nicaragua) and as you've said you don't really know much about the country, I would personally recommend both places. There's some really gorgeous cold springs at Ometepe so if you go - don't miss them. As for Costa Rica - I LOVED this country. It's a bit more expensive than Nicaragua and Honduras as it is a bit more westernised and set up for tourists. Your bus from Panama will most likely take you straight to San Jose. It's a nice enough city, but you'll easily get bored so don't plan too much time there. There's more than one bus station - one which serves the west coast, and another for the East Coast. First off I headed north east to 'La Fortuna' it's a village really set up for tourists. There's a great activities centre just behind the church that's on the village green - and they offer just about everything. All different grades of rafting to white water rafting, then offer stuff like a guided walk through the forest to see the wildlife, a trip to Arenal volcano is a must as it is constantly erupting and it was freaking amazing to watch. There's some pretty impressive hot springs there, they also offer caving, and guided mountain hikes - oh and stuff like volunteer for the morning at an animal sanctuary - so yeah - heaps of stuff to pick from!

From there we headed to Monteverde. It's supposed to be the best place to go zip lining through the cloud forest, and hands down it was the highlight of my trip for me. The weather is a lot cooler here so be prepared for that, and because you're going in rainy season, I'd recommend booking a morning zip line trip as it tends to rain in the afternoon more so than the morning. There's also other stuff to do there like a frog farm, a tour of a coffee farm, the national park, but the zip lining/sky walks is probably what you go there for. There's a restaurant/internet cafe in the town called the Treehouse - and it's built around a massive tree and it's just awesome really - so eat there if you go!

Manuel Antonio is a stunning National Park still on the west coast. The abundance of wildlife was amazing, and the beaches inside the actual park are obviously totally unspoilt, white sand, turquoise waters, the beach just leads into the forest, so no crappy touristy shops lined along the beach with annoying rent-a-sun beds etc - just bliss. Obviously the beach outside the park has all of that, and surfing lessons and stuff, but I'd say it's well worth a visit.

To get from one side to the other you might have to do an overnight stay in San Jose. August to October is Green sea turtle laying eggs time, and in Tortoguero (East coast) 100's come up onto the beach to lay their eggs. It was such an amazing sight to see. Aside from the turtles - to get to the area, going by boat from Limon via the canals is the easiest way as the town doesn't have roads. I saw all sorts of animals from otters to crocodiles, caimans, beautiful exotic birds, sloths, monkeys etc. so even if you just miss the sea turtle season, I'd recommend it.

There's also Cauhita to the south of Limon but I didn't think much of it. Another beachy kind of place, but not as nice as Manuel Antonio.

My tour lasted 28 days, but put in mind all my hours in the day were totally free for me to just explore and have fun, I didn't need to take time out to book hotels/hostels, find out about transport and stuff. But then this said also, I was restricted, and a couple of places I visited, I felt like I didn't really need the amount of time we were given, and I'd have moved on to the next destination a day early had I been given the chance (eg. Cauhita) I think the initial cost of the tour, inc. local payment was around £1000. On top of this I also paid for optional activities, tips and meals - so yeah I'd say I probably spent about another £250-£350 on top of that. (I did opt for some slightly extravagant activities such as swimming with dolphins which I think was $75 or $80, but I really wanted to do it and didn't want to leave regretting not doing it whilst the opportunity was there!) Bear in mind I will have paid over the top to have the luxury of a tour guide do all the planning and prep for me, so you'll save a fair bit by doing it on your own. I've heard that Belize is crazily expensive - not even close to the cost of all the other countries you'll be going to, so budget for that. I'd think about spending more time in places in other countries that are similar to destinations in Belize (eg. Roatan is supposed to be similar to one of Belize's islands just off the coast) Eating out is cheap, but beware of places where they add tip and tax on top of the menu price. The tax tends to be a bigger percentage in very touristy areas such as Roatan.



Wow, what tour was this?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 11:36 pm Reply to Message Reply with quote

I think it was called the Central America 1 and it was with Tucan Travel. It was 4 weeks starting in Antigua Guatemala and finishing in San Jose after touring east and west coasts of Costa Rica for the last 2 weeks of the tour!

Ajturner, are you sure you can get a boat out to the San Blas Islands? I've heard that you can only really get from Columbia up to Panama by plane! There's the slight problem of the Darrien gap and it's highly advisable to avoid going through it at all costs. There's no roads, it's dense jungle, guerrilla groups litter the area, and many unwise tourists and backpackers who either didn't do their research or who just thought it wouldn't happen to them, have been taken hostage and kept in the jungle for many months in hostage situations, a lot of people being killed.

As far as I am aware, there aren't any passenger boat services between the 2 countries (but I could be wrong, there might be some to San Blas Islands) but I was always under the impression that if you were wanting to go by boat, you'd have to talk the owner of a goods boat into letting you pay to have them take you across. Another thing you might want to bear in mind is that demand for flights to the islands outstrips supply so it's wise to book ahead of time!

Sorry for the Uber late reply guys!
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